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September 27, 2024

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While I appreciate Sagaar saying a movement with Fuentes is a movement he doesnt want to be a part of, it's still really strange that a guy who knows this much about American history is surprised that a nationalist/conservative movement has a large, racist contigent.

There has never been an American conservative movement that did not have a large element of people motivated by racism.

There has never been an American Nationalist movement that did not have a large element motivated by racism.

Had those conservative or nationalistic movements actually kicked out the racists, they would've been a permanent political minority. So while I do agree with Sagaar being a conservative does not therefore make you a racist (I'm much more skeptical about what is required to be a nationalist but for the sake of arguement ill conceed it doesnt mean youre racist), a successful American conservative/nationalist movement has always relied on racists to a point that you shouldn't be surprised when that ...

I’m quite surprised that the late Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s father, doesn’t come up more in the discussion about Epstein and his ties to intelligence agencies, especially Israel’s.

Maxwell was a huge public figure in his time, a media mogul with extensive decades-long ties to Israeli politicians. He helped to arm and finance Israel’s early wars. He sold surveillance software to Israel. 6 former Mossad chiefs attended his funeral. At the time of his “mysterious” death in 1991 even mainstream media was openly speculating that he might have been murdered by Israel or one of their enemies.

It may not be proof of anything but the “interesting coincidence” that Epstein was living with the daughter of someone so closely associated with Israel and spying makes the idea of Epstein the Spy seem much more plausible and suggests a possible starting point.

Here is a contemporaneous UPI account from 1991:
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/11/06/Maxwells-death-raises-questions-in-Israel/7466689403600/

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